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Apr 8, 2020

"Folks woke up in a fight they didn't ask for."

Our guest today is Casey Crawford, head of Movement Mortgage. Casey is no stranger to adversity. After his career as an NFL player, he entered the real estate business, investing his NFL savings into his new venture. A month later, October 2008, the market crashed.

In this episode, we discuss dealing with adversity, the importance of communication and creativity, and whether to "binge or build", as Bill has written about, during this time of pandemic.

Casey shares his morning routine, which will come as a relief for many. And he discusses transferring a large office into employee home offices, connected by Zoom calls and other tech tools.

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Bill Hart is a coach at Building Champions in Lake Oswego Oregon. He is also the author of the book "White Collar Warrior: Lessons for Sales Professionals from America's Military Elite".

Podcast produced by Studio C Creative Sound in San Diego CA